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- bellyacher
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Ethics
Just a thought. could unethical shots in bow or rifle hunting kinda change from person to person? what mite not be ethical for on hunter would be ethical for another due to there experience and capabilities? Sometimes I think the word unethical is used way to much. when a hunter watches a video and says it was unethical was it really,or was it just beyond his understanding,experiance and capabilities and at that point becomes unethical.
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Re: Ethicas
I would tend to agree with you, bellyacher. Even though we may all be hunters or at least call ourselves hunters, my skills may not be what yours are. If you a proficient with 300 yard shots, have at it. In my case I'll have to stick to 100 yard shots with rest on the window sill of the shooting house. Ethics are be influenced by other factors as well, but by doing the right thing within our capabilities, safely, we can be known as ethical outdoorsmen.
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Re: Ethicas
Ethics are very much different among people and may change in each of our eyes depending on each scenario.
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As the guy who used the word I will be the first to say, "absolutely".
There are some shots that I cannot / could not / would not ever take but they might be fine for someone else, and then there are some shots that need to be based on objective data.
The shot in question...
- A .243 caliber bullet
- 688 yards
- extreme wind conditions
- 12 year old shooter
Should have (at the very last) been reconsidered.
As the other commenter said, that guide no doubt took everything into account, but the guide wasn't the one making the shot.
There are some shots that I cannot / could not / would not ever take but they might be fine for someone else, and then there are some shots that need to be based on objective data.
The shot in question...
- A .243 caliber bullet
- 688 yards
- extreme wind conditions
- 12 year old shooter
Should have (at the very last) been reconsidered.
As the other commenter said, that guide no doubt took everything into account, but the guide wasn't the one making the shot.
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Re: Ethicas
Ethics and morals go hand in hand, in my opinion. I personally feel comfortable making a 300 yard rifle shot and will do it without hesitation. However, I don't like shooting over 25 yards with my bow. 30 is about the end of my comfort zone. Others may only shoot 100 yards with their rifle, but may take 50-60 yards with their bow.
We may see other things differently as an individual. (just using this as an example, don't bash me)I see these guys crashing brush and trees with swamp buggies and chasing deer down and shooting at them as immoral. The guys that do it regular disagree with me, and I was told to shut up about it on another forum. Who is to say who is right or wrong?
We may see other things differently as an individual. (just using this as an example, don't bash me)I see these guys crashing brush and trees with swamp buggies and chasing deer down and shooting at them as immoral. The guys that do it regular disagree with me, and I was told to shut up about it on another forum. Who is to say who is right or wrong?
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If you look through your scope and say "dam that deers wayyyy out there" dont take the shot. If you have to express how far it is then its too far. With bow depending on practice is how far your comfortable to shoot.
I think that if you take a looooong shot and are willing to track for hours and mot give up then it might be ok. But if you shoot and the animal dont drop and you just go home without trying to find it, its unethical. I mean if you are hitting a spinner at 300 yards every time with a certain rifle then go for it. If you practice long shots then go for it. If your just a 50-100 yard shooter then let the animal walk.
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I think that if you take a looooong shot and are willing to track for hours and mot give up then it might be ok. But if you shoot and the animal dont drop and you just go home without trying to find it, its unethical. I mean if you are hitting a spinner at 300 yards every time with a certain rifle then go for it. If you practice long shots then go for it. If your just a 50-100 yard shooter then let the animal walk.
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Re: Ethics
Only you can determine what is ethical for you as a lot depends on your ability.
I would not shoot at a game from 200 yards with my 45-70 as I do not have the skill to hit a game from such distance with that rifle/caliber. If I was using my target rifle I would have no problem shooting at a game 400+ yards away if the conditions were right. I have shot hogs at 400+ yards using target rifles and it was not a big deal .
You know what you and your equipment are capable so you know what would be ethical shot for you and if you don't know what you and your equipment are capable then you are an unethical hunter.
I would not shoot at a game from 200 yards with my 45-70 as I do not have the skill to hit a game from such distance with that rifle/caliber. If I was using my target rifle I would have no problem shooting at a game 400+ yards away if the conditions were right. I have shot hogs at 400+ yards using target rifles and it was not a big deal .
You know what you and your equipment are capable so you know what would be ethical shot for you and if you don't know what you and your equipment are capable then you are an unethical hunter.
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I think it's unethical for a fat man you barely know to step out of the shower at camp in the middle of nowhere, by yourselves...and ask for you to hand him a towel
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HAHA! That's funny stuff right there. Or to be eating beans when you know you are going to be sleeping at camp. Nothing could be worse than waking up to the smell of a BBQ bean fart cloud that has been building in the cabin all night long. You wake up, take that first breath, and throw up in your mouth! HAHAHA!Iluv2hunt wrote:I think it's unethical for a fat man you barely know to step out of the shower at camp in the middle of nowhere, by yourselves...and ask for you to hand him a towel
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I think its unethical for a redneck to walk 5 feet away , lean against a tree, brown water it down, soundin like a airbubble waterfall then look you in the face like nothing just happen
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Re: Ethics
Iluv2hunt wrote:I think it's unethical for a fat man you barely know to step out of the shower at camp in the middle of nowhere, by yourselves...and ask for you to hand him a towel
...you Broke Mountain boys sure do make ya wonder sometimes
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Re: Ethics
An imaginary set of rules and ideals made up by those who cant understand some one else's behavior.
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Another good one! HAHA!Cr0ck1 wrote:I think its unethical for a redneck to walk 5 feet away , lean against a tree, brown water it down, soundin like a airbubble waterfall then look you in the face like nothing just happen
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Both true stories too. He and I been friends a long time
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