NOT GUILTY

[dadsahuntin]

IHUNT47-I think that most here would agree the reason to have permit and to carry is to never have to use it. But fearing for life will make you very defensive. It seems you know something about that sir.

[M12Gunboy]

Wow you guys lack a good amount of commen sense. The dude followed a kid not bothering anybodyyou an pursued him even tho cops told itim not to. Wtf was the kid suppose to do? Have yall never been in a fight before? You got to oull out a gun because your a pu!@$ who cant fighting? Yall need to grow up if you cant take an asswhooping like a man and feel the need to pull out a gun

I know you must have fell down and hit your head real hard. #1 the cops never told him not to follow him. #2 TM should have kept walking and went home instead of coming back and and putting his hands on anybody. #3 have been in plenty of fights, now to old and crippled up for that crap and there is no such thing as a fair fight you fight to win so if you come to a gun fight wanting to fist fight. #4 any strange person walking around my place I will ask them who they are and what there doing. and if they want to attack me over it they will get the same thing TM did. #5 its my right to protect myself by any means. #6 this is the Gunshine state and before you go attacking people you need to remember that there is over 1 million people in Fla with cwp. #7 Please go to the nearest hospital and get your head injury taken care of

1. Cops did tell him not to pursue him I can find the recording if you like.
2.he did keep walking home he was confronted so he took action
3. Yea you probably been in fights and by the looks of it you got whooped to many times seeing as your quick to grab a gun and yea i agree you fight to WIN not kill dude I was a kid
4. The mid was walking home stop try to be a cop and go to sleep. Walking isnt illegal
5.yea I agree but learn when to use deadly force
6.no shart sherlock I have a cwp. And im sorry I didnt know you were there you saw the kid attack him first?
7. I would say lets meet up and handle this like men but you would just pull a gun since y ou lost your pair
Seriously grow up dude

Are you for real?

Come in our neighborhood after dark and start lerking around; be prepared to see what happens. Go ahead confront one of us, I can assure you it won't take a broken nose, wrestling around on the ground, bashing heads or any physical contact before you get double tapped in the chest. Not sure what world you live in...

In response to your answer to #4 "Walking isn't illegal", you are correct, and asking a punk WTF are you doing in my neighborhood after dark isn't either. It is crystal clear he (Zimmerman) felt his life was in danger and he defended himself while in a physical confrontation.

I have yelled at a few punks after dark in our neighborhood, and you know what, not one of them DECIDED to respond or make physical contact with me. Come on through our neighborhood looking for a fight and I will assure you a trip to the coronors office if you wanna be billy bad azz.

Wake up!

Are you for real? Lerking? The kid was walking home from a store!? Your the reason peoples gun rights get taken away. Get off of it dude if your so trigger happy try hunting a little more

Lerking? Do you even know what Lerking means? No, questioning a suspicious person or person that you believe does not belong somewhere is not lerking, it's called being aware of your surroundings and being responsible. Lerking is a peeping tom, looking in windows, trying not to be seen! I make a spectical of it when I see a "Suspicous person" definately not "lerking". Besides, last time I checked I owned property and paid taxes and have every right to question what I consider a "suspicious person" in an area I feel they don't belong, period.

No, I'm not the reason peoples gun rights get taken away, I am the reason we have an extremely LOW crime rate in our community, people know we have guns, people know we remain aware of our surroundings, people know we report and question suspicous persons and people know we aren't afraid to use to use deadly force when justified.

So I ask, how did Zimmerman get a broken nose? He must have hit it on a tree branch as the Prosecution would assume?

Go take a look at the evidence presented in the case again champ....

[M12Gunboy]

BTW it's Lurking NOT Learning.

[FLhunter33]

The lesson learned is if your getting beaten to a pulp in the dark by someone; you better make sure they are not black before you defend yourself. That is if your white, part white or have a white sounding last name... Don't volunteer and put yourself at risk to try and make your neighborhood a better place or you will be called a over zealous cop wanna be.

Here is the 800 lb gorilla in the room... What percentage of violent crime is committed by blacks? Chris Rock even does a bit about how when he is at the ATM, who he is looking over his shoulder for. little hint, it's not the media... So until the "black community" does something about it's own problems with violence then they will be viewed as suspect just for being black.

There seems to be some consensus among the proponents that TM was a victim; that if you are confronted by words violence is an appropriate reaction. If I was walking around my neighborhood in the rain wearing a hoodie and one of my neighbors followed me and verbally confronted me; my response would be "thanks for looking out for the neighborhood, I live right over there.. My name is Brett, what's yours??" I would never punch them in the head jump on them and beat them. In what state of delusion does it become all right to beat someone for asking you a question? Even if Zim walked up and said something to the effect of hey you fing N word why are you here? There would be no justification for the beating that ensued.

People like Al Sharpton never mention the fact that Zim had been beaten up. They just call TM a child and talk about how all he had was some skittles.. Guess what maybe instead of drumming up more hate, you should look at why it is that Blacks in hoodies are feared. Maybe it's because if you look at crime stats a majority of violent crime is perpetrated by black males and the uniform of choice is a hoodie. So now I can't take a simple fact of life and point it out without being a racist? The fact is there were witnesses who said that crimes were being committed by young black males in that neighborhood. So who are you going to look for? Old korean men? Give me a break...

[CitySlicker]

Zimmerman, to me is innocent according to Florida law. Non the less he is a coward who disregarded advice from the law, and took things into his own hands. Probably to excellerate his career options, and then got punked by a kid minding his own business. When he found out he should not of confronted the kid like the police told him to do it was to late. He ended up getting his azz whipped, and cowardly put 1 in him ending his life. If he would have had the ability to follow instruction from the law he would of never been in that situation to begin with. M12, sounds like you you just walk around all the time with your finger on the trigger. Real sad. You must of been beat to a pulp as a younger man, and decided you have no ability to defend yourself other than a firearm. Which is fine. Not everyone has the ability to rumble you know women, and kids, and such. If you confronted me in the dark you better already have your piece in my face, or you would be sleeping in 1, or 2 blows from my fists. Than if it carried on I might pull my piece, and cap you. Still you are the 1 who confronted me.
I am a proud gun owner, and believe in the right to protect yourself as long as you are not the 1 seeking the trouble, or trying to be a Keystone Cop.

[ihunt47]

Zimmerman, to me is innocent according to Florida law. Non the less he is a coward who disregarded advice from the law, and took things into his own hands. Probably to excellerate his career options, and then got punked by a kid minding his own business. When he found out he should not of confronted the kid like the police told him to do it was to late. He ended up getting his azz whipped, and cowardly put 1 in him ending his life. If he would have had the ability to follow instruction from the law he would of never been in that situation to begin with. M12, sounds like you you just walk around all the time with your finger on the trigger. Real sad. You must of been beat to a pulp as a younger man, and decided you have no ability to defend yourself other than a firearm. Which is fine. Not everyone has the ability to rumble you know women, and kids, and such. If you confronted me in the dark you better already have your piece in my face, or you would be sleeping in 1, or 2 blows from my fists. Than if it carried on I might pull my piece, and cap you. Still you are the 1 who confronted me.
I am a proud gun owner, and believe in the right to protect yourself as long as you are not the 1 seeking the trouble, or trying to be a Keystone Cop.

Thank you. He said much better then I

[nachogrande]

WOW, now this is getting interesting. a cyber McToughie call out. it may be weird coming from me but in the words of the infamous R.K. can't we all just get along. had a nice thread going. now it's probly gonna get censored to heck or locked.

[CitySlicker]

Look a coward is a coward. Just because most of us are gun owners, and love guns. Does not help the cause of us responsible gun owners when a pus plugs a kid for his own stupidity. It actually hurts our cause. When you got some guy that thinks he is the utmost authority on guns sounding arrogant in the right to use 1 any time he feels fit. It hurts our cause even more so. Sorry I see a trend on most hunting forums where some one plugs a would be thug, and the mass of hunters jump on the bandwagon. Trust me this publicity is not helping your hunting rights a bit. To a lot of the public we are just gun toting thugs!

[Cr0ck1]

Florida law is florid law. If i start with you and pick a fight, and you whoop my azz to the point where im screaming for help and you dont stop beating me, i will assume you are trying to kill me.

What happened is zimmerman walked up to this kid and thought he was a punk, he got clocked and a gangsta asss whoopin was initiated on him. And when tv wouldnt stop bashing his head after he screamed for help he felt his life was in danger.

Now me i know what a good whoopin is and only would kill if i knew he was going for my gun. You can heal from a good azz whoopin. And the defense proved thats what happened.

Just think zimmerman never got a gangsta whoopin placed on him before and thought he was gonna die.

[Iluv2hunt]

Everyone has their opinion on what happened, what should have been done, who shoulda did what, who shoulda stayed here or there...blah blah blah. Everyone pretends to be Matlock or Perry Mason. What sucks is this has caused a great divide in our country, and the egg heads in DC are egging it on. And I do not see it getting better any time soon

[DONY1]

As far as I'm concerned I'd have GZ as a neighbor any time. I've been there and done that when it comes to break ins in a neighborhood. You couple guys sit back and let whoever walk through your neighborhood, wave hello to 'em and call the cops when your chit is ripped off. As for me I'm watching and questioning anyone that doesn't look like they belong there or are up to no good. Nothing illegal with that. As far as I'm concerned that's called looking out for your neighbors and I encourage it. Had the kid just gone home he'd still be around. Instead he laid in wait for GZ and ended up getting capped. It is what it is.

[FishOn]

Those that say GZ shouldn't have disregarded the instructions of Law enforcement need to listen to the actual phone call and stop getting their talking points from the media. The operator was asking GZ questions about TMs whereabouts when TM started running (now why would the poor innocent "child" do that). At that point GZ got out of his car looking for where he went. Then the operator asked if he was following him and GZ said yes. Then the operator told GZ "we don't need you to do that" to which he responded "ok". At this point GZ had no idea where TM was. We know this because the operator asks GZ for his house # and he says he doesn't want to say it out loud because he doesn't know where TM is and he doesn't want him to hear his address.

Now from this how do you draw the conclusion that GZ disregarded instructions? The operator didn't even give instruction. He said "we don't need you to do that" not "don't do that". How do you even come to the conclusion that GZ confronted TM? It's sort of hard to confront someone when you have no idea where they are.

I could go further but it's getting long so I'll quit.

[Iluv2hunt]

Those that say GZ shouldn't have disregarded the instructions of Law enforcement need to listen to the actual phone call and stop getting their talking points from the media.

[Iluv2hunt]

As far as I'm concerned I'd have GZ as a neighbor any time. I've been there and done that when it comes to break ins in a neighborhood. You couple guys sit back and let whoever walk through your neighborhood, wave hello to 'em and call the cops when your chit is ripped off. As for me I'm watching and questioning anyone that doesn't look like they belong there or are up to no good. Nothing illegal with that. As far as I'm concerned that's called looking out for your neighbors and I encourage it. Had the kid just gone home he'd still be around. Instead he laid in wait for GZ and ended up getting capped. It is what it is.

Agree. I live on a dead end street with a total of 7 houses on it, surrounded by woods and a creek. We have a neighborhood watch here. No idea what it entails. We have a sign at the entrance to my street and that's all I know. We pretty much know every vehicle that has any business down here. The old lady at the corner sits on her porch all day and smokes cigarettes, like she has done for the last 50+ years. It's usually not long if after a vehicle drives down here someone is walking outside to see where they went. If someone walks down here in a hoody I will guarantee you they are lost or up to no good, and yes, they are getting profiled

[nachogrande]

yo he ran cuz that crazy azz cracker was gonna molest him, lol. according to the prosecutors witness he already had it whipped out. sorry I didn't have the time to listen to every word of the trial, so I might embellish a bit.